Question:
Where can I purchase a baby lion cub to have as a pet?
Curious D
2008-01-20 20:11:24 UTC
My roomate and I want a baby lion to have as a pet and to raise. When it is big enough we plan to give it to a zoo. Does anyone know where to purchase exotic animals?
Emailing me privately would be fine as well - davethewave2787@yahoo.com
24 answers:
♪ Seattle ♫
2008-01-20 21:25:37 UTC
Hi Dave.... any wild exotic cat require a lot of time, attention, care, management as they cannot eat ordinary cat food ONLY a raw diet w/vitamin supplementations or they will die from malnutrition, which happens so frequently with new pet owners. Exotic cats will only bond with one or two people at most therefore, would you be willing to commit 20+ years of your life for the sake of the exotic cats lifetime? You CANNOT go out a lot or take vacations or the cat will never forgive you while you're away as it will starve itself to death since it will only trust no one but you to feed it. Will you or your partner be able to afford to feed it the diet it requires and meet the legal requirements since you'll have to be inspected annually by the government ...or will you decide you can give it away because it becomes too much of a financial and emotional burden? Exotic cats should never be rehomed as it will ultimately be a death sentence to them. They bond with essential one or two people and if those persons no longer exist anymore exotic cats may starve themselves to death.



Exotic cats DO NOT get along with other pets and will kill any smaller domestic house pet that enters their territory even if they were raised together as youngsters. As they reach sexual maturity (even spayed/neutered) they will kill domestic animals. Most exotic cats are solitary by nature, which is why. Therefore, anyone telling you this is not being honest and this such a hearbreak to discover this first hand as many people do.



Here you will find some guidelines to owning an exotic cat. Please don't be fooled into believing that it will be any less work that having children! It is not for everyone. Don't make the mistake of believing that if you can't endure for the lifetime of your cat, you will be able to place it at a zoo or a wildlife rescue. This misconception is what gets a lot of exotic animals euthanised immediately because they are very hard to place. Zoos are full to capacity and also have strict requirements on the animals that they acquire for studbook breeding purposes and AZA (American Zoos and Aquariums Association) regulations. Compounds like Wild About Cats, Big Cat Rescue have to rescue some, but there are simply not enough sanctuaries for them all. Therefore, taking into consideration that many people are determined to get a cat no matter what they are told, and that many people are capable of being responsible owners, we always advise on captive husbandry. We would rather that these people were educated properly on care and handling, rather than dictated to that what they are doing is wrong. This is for the sake of the cats that did not ask to be born into these situations. If after reading through this information you would like to know more about captive wild cat husbandry and whether or not it is for you.



ENCLOSURE

Enclosures are not cheap to build as they must be updated frequently since wild cats spray and the urine degrades the metal. You will need a 300-800 sq. foot cage preferably. Considering they will be spending at least 20 years in this small space, obviously the bigger the better. It needs to be made of minimum 9-guage wire, preferably cyclone fencing 9-guage. It needs to be at least 8-feet tall with a ceiling. It will need a denbox. Usually constructed of 3/4 in. plywood or stronger, 3' x 6' x 5' tall. The door into the box will need a slider or guillotine door that can be operated from outside the cage to trap the cat inside so that you (and others when you are not home) can enter the cage to clean and feed. The back of the denbox should have some sort of hole to "bait" the cat into it, then you slide the slider shut and lock it. The main entrance to the enclosure should be double-gated. Where you go into one door, close it behind you in an entryway area, and then open the second door into the cage. Otherwise, the cat will have a direct line to get out. Most exotic cats love water and should be provided with a pool. This pool should be flushable with plumbing so that you will be able to clean it. Many cats like to use them to eliminate into. The enclosure needs to have good drainage or be on a slope so that there is no standing water when it rains.



LICENCING

You will need to contact your wildlife agency for mandatory requirements. Many places do NOT allow exotic felines. Therefore, you will need to check with your city/county/state governments for information on licensing and zoning. And if you are within city limits, you may need city agency licensing also. On a federal level you will need a U.S.D.A. license issued through APHIS (Animal and Plant Heath Inspection Service). They will have an inspector come out and see your enclosure prior to approval. Through them you will need to keep records of diet, vet care, and have annual inspections (also subject to "drop" inspections throughout the year) prior to renewal. They also require that your vet make at least biannual visits. The other regulating agency is U.S.D.I. (Dept. of Interior). They require licensing on endangered species only. Not doing any of these will guarantee immediate removal and euthanasia of the cat.



DIET REQUIREMENTS

All wild cat species need fresh RAW meat to survive. There are two main commercial carnivore feline diets made for captive cats. One is Nebraska and one is Breeders Choice. The price and availablility varies depending on where you are. Proper amounts to feed daily is 1%-3% of the cat's body weight. These commercial diets are in a hamburger-like form and are frozen into 5-lb. rolls. As a kitten, they will eat more because they are growing (5% body weight) and will need extra calcium (powder form or chicken necks) for bone growth. Too much beef acts as a laxative. A benefit to commercial diets is preparation. It's no fun to be butchering an animal every few days and it's very hard work. Another benefit is that the entire animal is used. The hide, hoof, bone, etc. is all in the diet. Including zoological vitamins and minerals. People that try to make their own diet often may not get the measurements right or proper balance. Health problems due to improper diet are very common and expensive. However, the disadvantage is that the consistancy of the commercial diets aren't always liked by the cats. They like the texture of bones and hide and that also keeps their teeth clean. So it is a good idea to cut it with whole chickens. An example would be to use 50% chicken/50% Nebraska and sprinkle some additional zoological vitamins on the chicken. If a non-commercial diet is used, zoological vitamins should be added. There was one called Oasis Vitamins, but they have gone out of business. Another very important aspect to diet is fasting. Wild cats do not eat every day. Their digestive tract is not designed to constantly be at work. It is much healthier for them to give it a rest once or twice a week. We fast on Sundays. Some times we fast on both Sunday and Wednesday and simply feed more on the days that they are fed so that the weekly intake is the same.



EXOTIC VET

This you will need to check on for your area. If you ask domestic vets locally, they can refer you to one. You should definitely use a vet that has experience with exotics. I have known cats that died because of inexperienced vets. They require unique vaccination programs, anesthesia, etc. You will need to locate a vet first, because U.S.D.A. will need information on them before they license you.



We highly encourage spaying or neutering exotic cats (if not of traceable lineage valuable to an organized breeding program). If you are considering not spaying your female cat, you must listen to this recording of a female in estrus. Be prepared to listen to this endlessly for weeks at a time and dealing with aggression towards you! Spaying/neutering will not stop an exotic cat from spraying with urine either.



TRAINING AND SAFETY

The most important information you will need is on handling and training. This comes from experience. No matter how tame your cat, it can kill you if you do the wrong thing. Your behavior is very important to safety. Raising, handling, and training a young cat properly will make or break your ability to handle them after the first year. And even then there's no guarantee that they will be handlable especially upon maturity. Check yourself to be sure that walking and petting your cat is not the reason that you are getting one. Handling them for one year as a younster is not worth having to house and feed them and not being able to touch them for the next twenty years as most exotic cats do not like to be held/cuddled or even petted. You must be prepared for the fact that you may not be able to handle your cat at all except maybe a quick careful rub through the fence. More often than not, this is the case. These are wild animals! Domestication takes thousands of years, not a few generations. See if you can volunteer somewhere that has exotic cats to learn all you can about behavior (yours and theirs). It may save your life, someone elses, and make for a happier cat. Also for safety you should get a CO2 fire extinguisher (not Halon) to keep next to the cage. If there's ever an attack or excape, a blast of CO2 is harmless but will spook a cat enough to get away or direct them where you want them to go. Even though the enclosure won't take up much room on your property, it will be nice to have that large buffer zone around your cat. Several acres is preferred. You do not want it visible to the public. If it is, build a wall. Once word gets out, people will come. Out of sight, out of mind. If they are tempted they will approach the cage and stick their fingers in, get bit, and sue you. Always have locks on both cage doors. Unfortunately it is not uncommon that angry people that don't approve will give you problems and/or poison or shoot your cat if they can get to it. You must have a perimeter fence on your property.



DISCIPLINE

Any wild cat that receives traditional discipline with a squirt of water in the face or a tap on the nose could be a death sentence for an owner. These cats cannot be taught discipline like with domestic dogs and cats and disregarding this fact will surely get you killed by a wild cat.
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2016-09-29 16:11:15 UTC
Lion Cubs For Sale
Gary D
2008-01-20 20:16:18 UTC
Unfortunately, this is a really bad idea, because most zoos are already full of abandoned lions and tigers that people thought would make good pets until they started shredding the person's furniture, eating the person's other pets (cats & dogs), or eating so much meat that the owner couldn't afford to keep it.



Take my advice and don't even think about it.



However, one way you could help out and still feel like you have such a pet would be to volunteer or even get a job with a zoological park. They'll be happy to give you training in how to handle the animals and in turn, you could help them to educate the public about them as well.
margecutter
2008-01-20 20:30:11 UTC
First, you need to check if your state allows lions to be kept as pets, and if so, are there any special restrictions, like licenses and permits. You can check here: http://www.api4animals.org/b4a2_exotic_animals_summary.php



If you find that lions are legal in your state, you need to check with your county and municipality, because many individual counties and municipalities restrict the ownership of animals that are otherwise legal in the state.



If you are legally allowed to have a lion as a pet, then consider the conditions under which lions are acquired from the wild, the conditions under which they are kept, their total unsuitability for a life of confinement.



Most lions and other big cats that are acquired as pets when they are young end up being euthanized or - if they are lucky - spend their lives in a rescue. Most people who attempt to raise a big cat have no idea what they are getting into. They do not understand the feeding, care, socilization and environmental needs of a big cat.



They are not pets. They should never be kept as pets, even if the law allows it.



Here ae some websites of rescues that deal with the big cats:

http://www.wildcatsanctuary.org/Rescues/AnimalRescues.html



http://www.bigcatrescue.org/cats/wild/lion.htm



http://www.greatcatsofindiana.org/who_we_are.htm



http://www.tigercreek.org/



http://www.exoticcatrescue.org/learn/



http://www.exoticfelinerescuecenter.org/home.html



Please read some of the information, and educate yourself about the subject of exotic cat ownership,
Girl Goes Back To The Future
2008-01-20 20:25:07 UTC
Ok. As much as I would love to have a pet like a lion, it should not be that way. Most of our fellow animals friends need to be left in nature or unfortunately in zoos (endangered and or extinct in wild)...not as you as their 'master' and not to be kept away from their natural habitat.



But since you want to give it to a zoo when it is big enough you have to do schooling first to even be able to be accepted to do that sort of thing with any animals........and I don't think there is many, if at all that allow lions to be brought up this way....



If you love lions so much...why don't you go to school and learn to eventually work with lions in national parks overseas, or in zoos around the world.
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2016-12-15 09:52:00 UTC
Lion For Sale
tooldaddy2003
2008-01-20 20:30:50 UTC
You can't just get one...There is the issue of room,being able to feed it, have vet check ups, shots,not to mention the security aspect of it and remember that they grow up and you can't take the "wild" out of them.....about 30 years ago a friend of mine jumped through all the hoops, put up all the need security,and was finally issued the proper permit to get a lion cub named "Fritz"... We lived across th road from them and there really was no problem (other than the loud roaring sometimes at night).....There is no telling how much money he spend over the several years that he had him and then one night someone shot Fritz with a deer rifle and killed him while he was in his enclosure....True story....I have pictures of me playing with him when I was about 18 or 20 years old....Sorry I got off on a tangent....but I really don't think that legally you could get a permit now a days....
cindy abc
2008-01-20 20:19:17 UTC
I think purchasing an exotic pet is illegal in most States. These animals take someone who knows how to feed and maintain their health. You could actually kill them accidentally by not knowing how to take care of them. Wouldn't it be better to contribute money to a wild life reserve?
?
2017-01-14 09:41:24 UTC
First u need to find a lion cub breeder. It is illegal to get a lion without a permit so get one. Lion cub breeders want you to get the permit BEFOREHAND the lion. It is also illegal to get a lion without a squeeze cage so you need to get one. Feed the lion meat and watch it grow!
Echo Two
2008-01-20 20:15:21 UTC
You can't. In most places they are illegal to own unless you have special license. And zoos don't take animals raised by private parties - they have their own breeding programs. So your animal will end up dead or in an already overcrowded rescue organization who takes on illegal exotics confiscated by authorities.
anonymous
2015-11-27 19:22:06 UTC
try the zoo ... but first think it for life this pet .. and you could lose your life with a wild lion cub he or she will grow.. and play with you . but the weight and strenth could kill you in just fun playing....
?
2008-01-20 20:15:01 UTC
i don't believe that would be legal... unless you geta zoo liscense, which is not the easiest thig in the world. i wanted to get an exotic cat of some sort... turns out that is kind of hard....
?
2008-01-20 20:30:36 UTC
Umm, you're crazy for wanting a wild animal as a pet, no offense but grow up and stop acting silly and abide by the law if you want to live in a civilize manner.
lisa
2015-06-05 05:34:31 UTC
lions belong in Africa if they can survive without poaches and then if not belong in zoos to keep therm alive and stop them from becoming extinct. lions and tigers and other wild cats are valuable to the earths existence. so please leave it up to the experts the zoo keepers. hopefully lisa loves tigers forever
anonymous
2008-01-20 20:15:39 UTC
Sorry man you can't it is against the law to have any exotice and dangerous animals owend by anyone other then the zoo, plus when the lion matures it would probably kill you.
anonymous
2008-01-20 21:20:39 UTC
that would be most cruel thing to do to a wild cat. They bond with humans for their entire lifetime! If you cannot keep the cat for it's entire lifetime then please do not get a cat. They will starve to death because of losing their family.
Ana
2015-03-09 18:29:04 UTC
I don't knoe did you try the zoo yet
anonymous
2008-01-20 20:26:58 UTC
Lions belong in the wild

NOT the living room



and if you get one, I seriously hope he bites your leg off or more.
kristen v
2008-01-20 20:15:55 UTC
you probably need some kind of license...and enough room where you are living to have one.
anonymous
2008-01-20 20:19:28 UTC
I imagine you most likely have to do it illegally..but if your thinking of it please dont...those types of animals dont deserve to be kept in the wild..
anonymous
2008-01-20 20:14:56 UTC
you'll get mangled to shreds
anonymous
2015-05-02 06:47:15 UTC
Hope this helps!
swept away in hopes
2008-01-20 20:14:33 UTC
i wondered that from time to time. I would check maybe the amazon or africa. They got tons in africa. I was little always wanted a baby panda
You may be right
2008-01-20 20:14:40 UTC
you can't have one, get a kitty cat


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